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*A good number of people feel race had a lot to do with the shooting of Michael Brown. Just don’t put Dr. Ben Carson among that group.

The neurosurgeon, who believed that Brown’s skin color was not a factor in the tragedy, voiced his views on the shooting and the continuing dissatisfaction among those in the black community over Brown’s death while appearing with the Rev. Jesse Jackson on “Fox News Sunday.”

During the segment, Carson clashed with Jackson while challenging him to defend his belief that Brown’s shooting was a racist “state execution.”

“It’s a pattern,” Jackson contended. “Whether it was the killing of Trayvon Martin, the killer walked away free, the killing of Diallo in New York, shot 41 times by police, they walked away free. The Oscar Grant case in Oakland, or the case of Rodney King in L.A.”

“At some point, we require and need to have a sense of justice,” he continued. “All we do know about Mike Brown is, really, he was shot unarmed six times.”

Jackson’s comments follow the views of many African-Americans who see the Brown situation and others similar to it as a symptom of systematic discrimination against blacks — particularly by white police officers.

Nevertheless, Carson sees otherwise as he countered Jackson by referencing the shooting without race playing a role.

“If you take race out of the issue altogether,” he explained, “and you take a group of young men and you raise them with no respect for authority, not learning to take on personal responsibility, having easy access to drugs and alcohol, they’re very likely to end up as victims of violence and incarceration. Has nothing to do with race.”

Despite taking in Carson’s theory, as well as host Chris Wallace mentioning statistics that show 91 percent of black murder victims are killed by other blacks, not white police officers, Jackson maintained his stance.

“It does have a race dimension,” he said before concluding, “Racial disparity, and alienation and mistrust, are very combustible factors.”

“It seems to me that when blacks kill whites — which is rare — it’s swift justice. When whites kill blacks, it’s rebellion. When it’s black on black it’s a struggle that shows a kind of permissiveness — guns in, drugs in, jobs out.”

To see Ben Carson and Jesse Jackson’s debate on “Fox News Sunday,” check out the video below: